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	<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/</link>
	<description>Tomos Hillman's mind-dump.</description>
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		<title>by: SilentBob</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-1542</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Don't you just love completely unrelated comment spam :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you just love completely unrelated comment spam <img src='http://yamahito.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: yamahito &#187; Blog Archive &#187; (De)Saturation Techniques</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-301</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 18:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-301</guid>
					<description>[...] Following on from my photoshop vibrancy challenge, I thought I would talk about some photoshop techniques I&#8217;ve been playing with for changing the saturation on photographs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Following on from my photoshop vibrancy challenge, I thought I would talk about some photoshop techniques I&#8217;ve been playing with for changing the saturation on photographs. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: sadie</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-290</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 15:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-290</guid>
					<description>In my instructions above, where I tell you to use Selective Color to lighten the reds in the red/gray map, I've found a slightly better way. You instead use the Channel Mixer, set it to grayscale, and put red at about 150% and constant at -50% (play with the sliders yourself to get it right). It gets better definition that way.

It's quite annoying that Bob's composite looks better than my carefully balanced complicated images, but it does...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my instructions above, where I tell you to use Selective Color to lighten the reds in the red/gray map, I&#8217;ve found a slightly better way. You instead use the Channel Mixer, set it to grayscale, and put red at about 150% and constant at -50% (play with the sliders yourself to get it right). It gets better definition that way.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite annoying that Bob&#8217;s composite looks better than my carefully balanced complicated images, but it does&#8230;
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		<title>by: sadie</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-289</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 12:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-289</guid>
					<description>And finally (for now):

http://marcus.minotaur.cc/sundry/Effect1-5.jpg

I'm having to fight my natural impulse to try and soften the highs and lows in the image, since highs and lows are what the effect is made out of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And finally (for now):</p>
<p><a href="http://marcus.minotaur.cc/sundry/Effect1-5.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://marcus.minotaur.cc/sundry/Effect1-5.jpg</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m having to fight my natural impulse to try and soften the highs and lows in the image, since highs and lows are what the effect is made out of.
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		<title>by: SilentBob</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-288</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 12:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-288</guid>
					<description>Just for a laugh, I decided to see what it looked like if you added Effect1-2.jpg as a layer with 50% transparency over the top of Effect1-3.jpg, and it turned out surprisingly okay:

http://www.everythingeverything.co.uk/files/Effect1-2-3.png</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for a laugh, I decided to see what it looked like if you added Effect1-2.jpg as a layer with 50% transparency over the top of Effect1-3.jpg, and it turned out surprisingly okay:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.everythingeverything.co.uk/files/Effect1-2-3.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.everythingeverything.co.uk/files/Effect1-2-3.png</a>
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		<title>by: sadie</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-287</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-287</guid>
					<description>And this is my attempt to combine the various techniques into something balanced:

http://marcus.minotaur.cc/sundry/Effect1-4.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is my attempt to combine the various techniques into something balanced:</p>
<p><a href="http://marcus.minotaur.cc/sundry/Effect1-4.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://marcus.minotaur.cc/sundry/Effect1-4.jpg</a>
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		<title>by: sadie</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-286</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-286</guid>
					<description>Okay, I've done what Tom's asking for and produced something that is purely based on the saturation map and nothing else

http://marcus.minotaur.cc/sundry/Effect1-3.jpg

I achieved this by:
- add a layer of solid red, and set its blend mode to Hue
- add a layer of solid red, and set its blend mode to Luminosity
- flatten
(this should leave you with an image that goes from gray to red)

- Image &#62; Adjustments &#62; Selective Colour, and on the page for Reds, whack the Black slider all the way to the left.
- Desaturate
- Use levels to narrow down on the range of colours in the image
(this will leave you with a saturation map)

- Use that map (Inverted) as a mask for a desaturated copy of the original layer.

As you can see, while it technically achieves the saturation-contrast that Tom wants, on its own it still falls some way short of the desired effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;ve done what Tom&#8217;s asking for and produced something that is purely based on the saturation map and nothing else</p>
<p><a href="http://marcus.minotaur.cc/sundry/Effect1-3.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://marcus.minotaur.cc/sundry/Effect1-3.jpg</a></p>
<p>I achieved this by:<br />
- add a layer of solid red, and set its blend mode to Hue<br />
- add a layer of solid red, and set its blend mode to Luminosity<br />
- flatten<br />
(this should leave you with an image that goes from gray to red)</p>
<p>- Image &gt; Adjustments &gt; Selective Colour, and on the page for Reds, whack the Black slider all the way to the left.<br />
- Desaturate<br />
- Use levels to narrow down on the range of colours in the image<br />
(this will leave you with a saturation map)</p>
<p>- Use that map (Inverted) as a mask for a desaturated copy of the original layer.</p>
<p>As you can see, while it technically achieves the saturation-contrast that Tom wants, on its own it still falls some way short of the desired effect.
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		<title>by: sadie</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-285</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've just uploaded a slightly better copy of that image, where i've re-applied some of the bloom that was evident in the original.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just uploaded a slightly better copy of that image, where i&#8217;ve re-applied some of the bloom that was evident in the original.
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		<title>by: SilentBob</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-284</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-284</guid>
					<description>The effect's not bad, although I find the leaves are a bit distracting in this particular photo. The second pic looks a lot sharper, possibly a little too sharp for my liking. I like the girl on the right ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The effect&#8217;s not bad, although I find the leaves are a bit distracting in this particular photo. The second pic looks a lot sharper, possibly a little too sharp for my liking. I like the girl on the right <img src='http://yamahito.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: yamahito</title>
		<link>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-283</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yamahito.net/blog/2007/05/01/photoshop-vibrancy-challenge/#comment-283</guid>
					<description>&lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157594577686705/?search=dave+hill" rel="nofollow"&gt;The tutorial Marcus is talking about...&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.davehillphoto.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;And the Dave Hill 'Look'&lt;/a&gt; (he's my age, sob, weep)

it's interesting, but is really looking at the sharpening effects that Dave Hill is known for rather than the saturation thing I've been talking about.  the sharpening itself has the effect of changing the saturation, particularly of low and high contrast areas, I think because of the high pass filters.

I wonder what a dupicate of the original image on the top layer using a Hue or Colour overlay would look like?  Whether it would restore some of the original colour without losing the sharpness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157594577686705/?search=dave+hill" rel="nofollow">The tutorial Marcus is talking about&#8230;</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.davehillphoto.com/" rel="nofollow">And the Dave Hill &#8216;Look&#8217;</a> (he&#8217;s my age, sob, weep)</p>
<p>it&#8217;s interesting, but is really looking at the sharpening effects that Dave Hill is known for rather than the saturation thing I&#8217;ve been talking about.  the sharpening itself has the effect of changing the saturation, particularly of low and high contrast areas, I think because of the high pass filters.</p>
<p>I wonder what a dupicate of the original image on the top layer using a Hue or Colour overlay would look like?  Whether it would restore some of the original colour without losing the sharpness?
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